Multiple ground controls.
Description
Rag doll ... As in throw round like one :)
Is it right that ground control is stacking in this way?
For the damage it does, the lag it can do, stacking maledictions seems a bit much. This was from one successful owaza and 3 throw ground controls. (IE every ground control maledicted)
-31 dex from ground control
-6 strength
Spell: 'bless' modifies save vs spell by -4 for 20 hours.
Spell: 'bless' modifies hit roll by 2 for 20 hours.
Spell: 'protection from good' for 18 hours.
Song: 'canticle of the gods' modifies save vs spell by -9 for 18 hours.
Song: 'canticle of the gods' modifies hit roll by 5 for 18 hours.
Song: 'charismatic prelude' modifies charisma by 2 for 10 hours.
Skill: 'ground control' modifies dexterity by -8 for 8 hours.
Skill: 'ground control' modifies dexterity by -8 for 8 hours.
Skill: 'ground control' modifies dexterity by -7 for 7 hours.
Skill: 'kotegaeshi' modifies dexterity by -7 for 6 hours.
Skill: 'kotegaeshi' modifies strength by -7 for 6 hours.
Song: 'anthem of resistance' for 4 hours.
Skill: 'ground control' modifies dexterity by -6 for 3 hours.
Skill: 'ground control' modifies strength by -6 for 3 hours.
Skill: 'recuperate' modifies movement regeneration by 7 for 2 hours.
Carrion Fields on 2018-01-03 01:37 UTC
Automatically imported from the legacy bug board forum.
Scarabaeus on 2018-01-06 01:50 UTC
Subject: RE: Multiple ground controls.
There appears to have been a bug in the logic for ground control--which may have been in place for a very long time. I have updated it to work the way I believe it is supposed to work.
The one update we may need to make for the HELP file is that you can get up to 2 ground control affects: one if your arm is hyper-extended and one if your elbow is hyper-extended. But at that point it should max out.
Murphy on 2018-01-06 09:02 UTC
Subject: Am I right to assume
that one of them is -str and the other -dex?
Also, does that mean that after the first crippling control the rest will always be strikes to the ribs/kicks to the face and thus more likely to permalag?
Kstatida on 2018-01-06 17:32 UTC
Subject: Can we have the same for bat? NT
NT
Rag Doll on 2018-01-07 23:27 UTC
Subject: RE: Multiple ground controls.
I feel it would be worth updating the help file:
Once a joint has been hyperextended, further ground controls will
not be possible to this person until they have healed. If the ground
control executed is a strike, however, further ground controls are
possible upon additional successful throws.
The help file does hint that once a hyperextension has landed (regardless of location) that no more of these strikes are possible.
So perhaps replace the above with:
Two types of joint hyperextension are possible, shoulder or elbow, once
a specific joint has been hyper extended, further ground controls will
not be possible to this joint until it has healed. If the ground
control executed is a strike, however, further ground controls are
possible upon additional successful throws.
Scarabaeus on 2018-01-08 17:16 UTC
Subject: RE: Am I right to assume
The two non-repeatable actions are -dex. Owaza can flag someone with a -str affect that is also marked as GC.
Scarabaeus on 2018-01-08 17:17 UTC
Subject: HELP files
We'd have to think about how to add the Owaza information I note above.
Scarabaeus on 2018-01-08 17:20 UTC
Subject: you never know! NT
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RagDoll on 2018-01-08 21:07 UTC
Subject: RE: HELP files
Fair point!
Remove ground control from Owaza? Just kidding.
So perhaps replace the above with (Essentially just breaking it out
into the two technique types ... I have no idea if I am even in the
ballpark with how Owaza works tho):
When the opponent is thrown, two types of joint hyper-extension are
possible, shoulder or elbow, once a joint has been hyper-extended,
further ground controls will not be possible to this joint until
it has healed. If the ground control executed is a strike, further
ground controls are possible upon additional successful throws.
When an owaza technique is applied to the opponent two further
variations of joint hyper-extension are possible, shoulder or elbow,
once a joint has been hyper-extended, further ground controls will
not be possible to this joint until it has healed. If the ground
control executed is a strike, further ground controls are possible
upon additional successful throws.
Kstatida on 2018-01-09 07:46 UTC
Subject: Unlikely
You'll just have hyperextensions that don't maladict.